Civic-EG.com Forum 3.3.1

- Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:02 am #109545

Mad camber= mad tire wear=more money on tires=less money on good honda parts= mad honda enthusiast = camber FTMFL.

Fail

- Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:51 am #109557 Toe= mad tire wear

- Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:37 am #109596

I have been having rubbing issues forever! I ran 16" with 205/45/16s for two years with a 3" drop.

I recently installed a set of 15" with 185/55/15s and have no problems at all!!! My car is as low as it can go with no rubbing :0)

I still have my camber kit up front and in back, but yes the tires do wear quick on the inside with out one.

It doesn't matter if you have a camber kit or not. A camber kit is not going to save your tires from wear. Getting the toe adjusted will save the tires.

so true!

toe in will save tires......

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- Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:24 am #109635

Mad camber= mad tire wear=more money on tires=less money on good honda parts= mad honda enthusiast = camber FTMFL.

Fail

Camb0r = grip = better tyre feedback = much nicer to drive = win

- Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:38 pm #109685 good responses ....so i've decided that i gunna try it but only thing is ... is that i have to sell my skunk2 springs and buy coilovers and then i wanna buy skunk2 shocks to go along with it..... so i gotta wait on the whole dropping the car more till i get more money saved up for car parts

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:14 am #109794 too much camber (positive or negative) = uneven tire wear, balljoint/ wheel bearing wear, and pull to side of most positive/ least negative camber = camber FTL

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:10 am #109862

too much camber (positive or negative) = uneven tire wear, balljoint/ wheel bearing wear, and pull to side of most positive/ least negative camber = camber FTL

Bearing wear eh?

Do you know how much stress you have to put on a bearing to get it to noticeably screw up? Even big spacers aren't that bad for the bearings since the early 90s.

And I don't see how pulling can be brought into it... unless you have shite bushes or have crashed it in the past then the camber on both sides is going to be the same to within a few minutes.

Uneven tyre wear is only with exceptionally high amounts of camber unless you have low profile tyres.

Basically....

Unless you're a n00b then camber has way more benefits in performance terms than downsides. If you're sensible (you don't need more than -2deg camber for road / autox) then you won't have any problems and your car will look super r00d for having camber win.

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:16 pm #109866 ^ just stating what is in the ASE Natef approved training book. And if you really put your mind to it, if the camber is negative enough, you can see that it will put an uneven amount of stress on the wheel bearing, leading to wheel bearing wear.

so...... yeah, just my two cents.... take it or leave it.
Its all good.

And OP is just looking to see if negative camber will wear tires faster, which it will. Im not talking about performance, or worrying about going around a turn fast.

autocross= camber good

Daily driving= camber bad

i've only been rocking civics since i could drive, and they've never been to a shop for repairs, so i guess i am a n00b.

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:29 pm #109877 I never had an issue daily driving my car with a ton of camber

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:05 pm #109885

I never had an issue daily driving my car with a ton of camber

like said, if toe is set correct you dont have any issues.....

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- Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:41 pm #109920

^ just stating what is in the ASE Natef approved training book. And if you really put your mind to it, if the camber is negative enough, you can see that it will put an uneven amount of stress on the wheel bearing, leading to wheel bearing wear.

Define "negative enough"?

As I said, I'd call -2 degrees more than enough for most eventualities. You would only want more if it was a track slag.

You can't just blanket camber as being bad just because it might give you uneven wear, it really isn't that simple.

I've run -1.75 deg camber on my car for a good few months on the road driving enthusisatically. My tyres have worn completely evenly, because the toe is neutral (I would have prefered some toe out if on track though). You have to take into account that camber migration depends entirely on the amount of suspension travel you have so I maintain my viewpoint of "it isn't that simple".

Also got to take profile into account as a lower profile tyre is going to have less give in the sidewall, which will contribute to uneven wear. However, on 195/50/15s the sidewall is a reasonable size and there is enough give in the wall for the whole tyre to remain in contact with the road at all times. I would only have a concern if you drive at high speeds in straight lines all the time as you will heat the inside up more than the middle or outer parts of the tyre.

- Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:12 pm #109963 its cool. dont feel like arguing my point anymore.


and riding with "a ton of camber" would definitely wear the inside of the tire regardless of toe setting. / \

- Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:00 am #110046 lmao I never said it wouldn't hence why I keep saying "within reasonable limits" or maybe you're ignoring that bit and not actually reading anything in my post?

- Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:40 pm #110098

I never had an issue daily driving my car with a ton of camber

^ a-yay-a-yayee.

its all good though, i should of been more specific.

- Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:54 am #110200

I never had an issue daily driving my car with a ton of camber

^ a-yay-a-yayee.

its all good though, i should of been more specific.

She did have quite a bit. -3 to -4 something like that. tires lasted 2+ years like that. Tires are effectively balloons in a sense. they will conform to the flat surface. Just adjust the tire pressure and have the toe set right and the tires will last a long time. you will still get even tire wear.

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