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Zc How to tell without stamp?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:19 pm
by hatchin06
There is this guy and he wants to trade hatches but his has the dohc zc in it and he claims all it says on the stamp is zc. Now we all know he is wrong but is there a way to tell just by looking at it which one it is? he told me it came from an 89 teg but I know that the d16a3 and the d16a8/9 are both dohc out of that same yr teg. help me out?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:28 pm
by Classiccarsrule85
http://thenew.gamesbbs.com/~dmoore/zc.htm

maybe that site can help i knwo its helped me and well if it came out of a 89 integra then over here in the states its also a D16a1 now those are not true ZC's by any means and if placed into a 88-on up civic have had their mounts modded since i do remember my buddy trying to fit one of those motors into his crx and he couldnt really do it without hurting the position of the motor and or the mount itself. those motors where really designed to fit the first gen crx and the civic that went with that year round 84-87 since they mounted almost exactly the same....at least thats how it is ove rhere in the states

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:38 pm
by hondajunkee
definitely check the mounts because I have also thought about butting an 89 teg motor into one of my old civics but the mounts are not the same and no one makes a kit for them, you can put the motor in an eg but one of the mounts wont work.

I knew a guy who ran it with out that mount and he said it was fine till about 80mph then the car would start to shake

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:43 pm
by hatchin06
its in a 88 hatch so I should def figure out how he got it in there or what?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:04 pm
by hondajunkee
stright from the Honda Engine Swaps book in the 88-91 section since its an EF

"early model '86 -'89 USDM Integras are in no way compatible with this chassis."

the only way is if it's an actual ZC motor

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:06 am
by hatchin06
he now claims it says zc2 on it?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:47 am
by Classiccarsrule85
I know there is no such thing as that you can have that at all.....ZC2 wtf is that lol

Id have to say that someone may have etched it if it dose say that but no matter what it woudl only have ZC printed on it no numbers no nothing

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:58 am
by hatchin06
so there is a zc motor with only zc on the block?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:02 am
by hondajunkee
from what i can find ZC2 motors are from 92-95 civics

that and it was the chassis code from the 2006 Honda FCX hydrogen car lol

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:30 am
by Dippin_EG

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:54 am
by ej2rey
Zc2(2nd gen zc)
Is a rare motor. Only made for less than a year and it came on jdm integra si.

Zc is the most common.
Its obd0 and yes it just has zc stamped on the block.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:14 am
by hatchin06
well how many diff versions are there if it just says zc on the block. Meaning if it just says zc how do i figure the specs of it, if there is more than one block with just zc on it.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:35 am
by ej2rey
hatchin06 wrote:well how many diff versions are there if it just says zc on the block. Meaning if it just says zc how do i figure the specs of it, if there is more than one block with just zc on it.

There are 4 versions. 1st gen, 2nd gen, 3rd gen and 4th gen.

If its a 1st gen is identified by: External coil, small dizzy, dual butterfly TB, cam cover bolts on top, brown/gold cam cover. Large cam pulleys.

2nd gen is identified by: Internal coil, large dizzy, single butterfly TB mounted on slight angle forward, bolts on top of cam cover, black cam cover, large cam pullies.