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Turbo Oil Feed/Return Options?

Posted:
Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:52 am
by drifterx808
I'm contemplating on weather or not I want to do the old school, proven, tee off of Oil Sender port for feed, and drain to pan setup. Or using one of those Oil Filter sandwich adapters that have ins and outs for an oil cooler, and running the feed/drain from those ins and outs.
I'm thinking I want to go with the sandwich adapter method, since the oil filter is right there on the bottom near the turbo, short distance to turbo, and no need to tap into drain pan for return. Also I'm thinking it would be a positive benefit to run the feed line through a small oil cooler before going into turbo.
The only thing I find myself wondering is if there could be any issue with oil back-up on the return. I know whenever you drain into the pan you want a downward line for unrestricted gravity fed flow of the return oil. Can anyone see any possible issue with the oil not flowing out of the return line and back into the sandwich adapter fast enough to prevent oil back-up? Or would the oil just run right through, like I'm hoping that it would?

Posted:
Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:59 am
by sihatch9508
when i had my turbo set up i used the sandwhich adapter for the feed line and tapped the oil pan for the return. i didnt see or have any problems with doing it like that. turbo cars from the factory such as volkswagons and saabs use the return line into the oil pan metod. how else is there to do it? and u cant do return line back into the adapter since it is feeding out the oil and not reurning it because the holes in it are for feed lines not for oil to reurn back into it.
just make sure you drill higher up in the oil pan and dont kink the line or block any oil pan bolts and youll be alright


Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:51 pm
by drifterx808
sihatch9508 wrote:when i had my turbo set up i used the sandwhich adapter for the feed line and tapped the oil pan for the return. i didnt see or have any problems with doing it like that. turbo cars from the factory such as volkswagons and saabs use the return line into the oil pan metod. how else is there to do it? and u cant do return line back into the adapter since it is feeding out the oil and not reurning it because the holes in it are for feed lines not for oil to reurn back into it.
just make sure you drill higher up in the oil pan and dont kink the line or block any oil pan bolts and youll be alright 
I could swear the sandwich adapter has an out and in for oil cooler send and return. I don't see why a turbo return would not work on the oil in.

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:33 am
by teal_dx
I have not seen a sandwich adaptor like that before, what brand do you have? I've seen them with more than 1 threaded hole, but they were all line outs.
Rather than run a long line all the way back to the oil filter, I think a short line going down to the oil pan would be better for the turbo anyways.

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:38 am
by drifterx808
teal_dx wrote:I have not seen a sandwich adaptor like that before, what brand do you have? I've seen them with more than 1 threaded hole, but they were all line outs.
Rather than run a long line all the way back to the oil filter, I think a short line going down to the oil pan would be better for the turbo anyways.
This adapter is perfect for anyone who is installing an aftermarket oil cooler to their vehicle. The plate easily mounts between the engine block and the oil filter. This adapter makes it possible to install your oil cooler kit with out relocating the oil filter or tapping any other oil sources. It has two 3/8 NPT ports for cooler kit connection, one feed port and one return port. There are 2 3/8 NPT to AN-10 fittings supplied to connect your cooler kit hoses to the adapter.
http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/oil-cool ... nf-16.aspx
But your point about the shorter, and also more straight down run to the oil pan does make more sense.

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:41 am
by sihatch9508
drifterx808 wrote:teal_dx wrote:I have not seen a sandwich adaptor like that before, what brand do you have? I've seen them with more than 1 threaded hole, but they were all line outs.
Rather than run a long line all the way back to the oil filter, I think a short line going down to the oil pan would be better for the turbo anyways.
This adapter is perfect for anyone who is installing an aftermarket oil cooler to their vehicle. The plate easily mounts between the engine block and the oil filter. This adapter makes it possible to install your oil cooler kit with out relocating the oil filter or tapping any other oil sources. It has two 3/8 NPT ports for cooler kit connection, one feed port and one return port. There are 2 3/8 NPT to AN-10 fittings supplied to connect your cooler kit hoses to the adapter.
http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/oil-cool ... nf-16.aspx
But your point about the shorter, and also more straight down run to the oil pan does make more sense.
point proven. the regular adapters just have feed lines no return lines but the oil cooler ones dont. didnt realize that at first. but id just stick with the return into the pan, much easier and also easier on the turbo IMO.

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:18 am
by drifterx808
Thanks for the input guys.. as we say in Hawaii.. U da bes! Now my blueprints for my turbo setup is complete, to bad I have to put it off a while to re-install A/C first (took freakin' hot here), and fix the partially smashed in front-end (From previous owner).

Posted:
Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:31 am
by sihatch9508
drifterx808 wrote:Thanks for the input guys.. as we say in Hawaii.. U da bes! Now my blueprints for my turbo setup is complete, to bad I have to put it off a while to re-install A/C first (took freakin' hot here), and fix the partially smashed in front-end (From previous owner).
good luck man, keep us updated


Posted:
Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:56 pm
by stefan
Sorry for being late... but I think I have a good addition to this topic;
Yes, you can send it back to one of those oil cooler adapters, as they're different from sensor adapters.
BUT... there is no (wich is 0,0, equalls nothing) oil pressure áfter the bearing in your turbo.
So all oil coming out should be collected in a catchcan, with a small electric pump pumping it back to the rear of the block.
And remember that 'simplicity = best' with these things.
So the choice is yours; do you want to go down good ol' reliable Oldskool Road, or would you like to go down fancy pancy Unique Boulevard, with the risk that your pump seizes, or oil return gets torn or tangled up by something, the catch tank leaks, etc. etc.
And there's no harm in copying other peoples setup... just make sure those setups work properly for them AND you.